WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:00.820 Foreign 2 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:10.648 welcome to Inclusion Bites, your 3 00:00:10.704 --> 00:00:14.296 sanctuary for bold conversations that spark change. I'm 4 00:00:14.328 --> 00:00:18.152 Joanne Lockwood, your guide on this journey of exploration into the 5 00:00:18.176 --> 00:00:21.784 heart of inclusion, belonging and societal 6 00:00:21.832 --> 00:00:25.560 transformation. Ever wondered what it truly takes to create 7 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:28.880 a world without where everyone not only belongs but 8 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:32.752 thrives? You're not alone. Join me as we 9 00:00:32.776 --> 00:00:36.320 uncover the unseen, challenge the status quo 10 00:00:36.480 --> 00:00:40.096 and share stories that resonate deep within. 11 00:00:40.248 --> 00:00:43.808 Ready to dive in? Whether you're sipping your morning coffee 12 00:00:43.904 --> 00:00:47.072 or winding down after a long day, let's connect, 13 00:00:47.216 --> 00:00:50.620 reflect and inspire action together. 14 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.838 Don't forget, you can be part of the conversation too. Reach out 15 00:00:54.894 --> 00:00:55.158 to 16 00:00:55.214 --> 00:00:58.886 jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk 17 00:00:59.038 --> 00:01:02.850 to share your insights or to join me on the show. 18 00:01:03.390 --> 00:01:07.190 So adjust your earbuds and settle in. It's time to 19 00:01:07.230 --> 00:01:11.050 ignite the spark of inclusion with Inclusion Bites. 20 00:01:14.510 --> 00:01:16.982 And today is episode 21 00:01:17.046 --> 00:01:20.754 149 with the title Beating 22 00:01:20.882 --> 00:01:24.722 the Odds. And I have the absolute honour and privilege to 23 00:01:24.746 --> 00:01:28.354 welcome Georges Cordoba. Georges is a 24 00:01:28.362 --> 00:01:32.178 stage 4 cancer survivor, holistic health coach 25 00:01:32.314 --> 00:01:35.842 and best selling author who empowers individuals to 26 00:01:35.866 --> 00:01:38.590 transform their health vitality through 27 00:01:38.970 --> 00:01:42.786 holistic even practises. When I asked Georges 28 00:01:42.818 --> 00:01:46.600 is describe his superpower, he said it is turning adversity into 29 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:50.136 a mission of hope, healing and purpose. 30 00:01:50.248 --> 00:01:53.720 Hello Georges, welcome to the show. How you doing 31 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.144 Joanne? Thank you for inviting me and I'm honoured to 32 00:01:57.232 --> 00:02:00.340 share some minutes with you. 33 00:02:00.800 --> 00:02:03.976 Absolute pleasure. So we were chatting in the green room just now and 34 00:02:04.048 --> 00:02:07.272 you're New Mexico in the, in the, in the U.S. 35 00:02:07.456 --> 00:02:11.160 yes. And you were telling me a bit about how you have family 36 00:02:11.200 --> 00:02:14.984 and relatives in the California area with the wildfires. Do 37 00:02:14.992 --> 00:02:18.250 you want to tell me about how worrying that is? Yes, 38 00:02:18.750 --> 00:02:22.278 very worrying. Because on top of 39 00:02:22.334 --> 00:02:25.942 everything the fires are very tough 40 00:02:26.006 --> 00:02:29.606 to contain because they have 85, 90 41 00:02:29.678 --> 00:02:33.382 mile an hour winds on top of everything. So like a perfect 42 00:02:33.446 --> 00:02:37.130 storm. Now they have like, and that's unusual, 43 00:02:37.470 --> 00:02:41.148 a tropical storm turning hurricane over there. So 44 00:02:41.334 --> 00:02:45.056 they, they're getting better but it's been, 45 00:02:45.128 --> 00:02:48.976 it's been crazy. When you see pictures it seems like it also looks 46 00:02:49.008 --> 00:02:52.704 like, like in the, an atomic 47 00:02:52.752 --> 00:02:56.032 bomb the way they burned all those homes. And there are some 48 00:02:56.136 --> 00:02:59.792 unexplicable situations where you see an entire 49 00:02:59.856 --> 00:03:03.520 streets of mansions burned out and then on the side 50 00:03:03.640 --> 00:03:07.360 you still see some trees that were not here. So it was 51 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:11.180 like it's nature, it's, it's tough to, to understand 52 00:03:11.300 --> 00:03:14.924 sometimes when you see the, the end result but it's, 53 00:03:14.972 --> 00:03:18.716 it's worrying, not so much also, I mean the burning is amazing 54 00:03:18.748 --> 00:03:22.460 but the smoke they're evacuating folks in terms of, 55 00:03:22.500 --> 00:03:26.156 you know, for, for smoke inhalation. So my, my son lives 56 00:03:26.228 --> 00:03:29.916 in Venice beach which is well basically 57 00:03:30.028 --> 00:03:33.772 right at the coast. He's not being evacuated yet and I 58 00:03:33.796 --> 00:03:37.532 have some Greek family in San Fernando Valley and 59 00:03:37.556 --> 00:03:41.302 it hasn't been affected but again a valley getting 60 00:03:41.406 --> 00:03:45.062 all this smoke. They were talking about yesterday that also 61 00:03:45.166 --> 00:03:48.998 having these folks evacuate because of the smoking 62 00:03:49.094 --> 00:03:52.886 in late in fishing. Yeah. So it's, 63 00:03:52.918 --> 00:03:56.582 it's quite for us, you know, anywhere. I have my, my 64 00:03:56.606 --> 00:03:59.590 oldest son there and some of my mother's 65 00:03:59.670 --> 00:04:03.446 cousins like I said in Sherman Oaks. 66 00:04:03.478 --> 00:04:06.936 But hopefully by, by the end of the week, hopefully 67 00:04:06.968 --> 00:04:10.680 with right now is Monday, but we're hoping that very soon, 68 00:04:10.720 --> 00:04:14.424 sooner than later they can contain this stuff. Destruction 69 00:04:14.472 --> 00:04:18.216 is amazing. LA is not the same my son 70 00:04:18.248 --> 00:04:22.024 is saying and affects obviously the, the work, 71 00:04:22.112 --> 00:04:25.688 the folks are professionals. You have the elite there, the 72 00:04:25.744 --> 00:04:29.112 Hollywood stars losing their homes and you 73 00:04:29.136 --> 00:04:32.824 know, it's a little bit crazy right now. Yeah, yeah. 74 00:04:32.872 --> 00:04:36.200 People are given minutes to evacuate. They're leaving 75 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.340 everything behind. Literally what they're wearing. 76 00:04:40.080 --> 00:04:43.140 Exactly. They can do anything. It's like, 77 00:04:44.080 --> 00:04:47.896 you know, like hurricanes. I lived in Miami, 78 00:04:47.928 --> 00:04:51.352 Florida for 30 years and 79 00:04:51.456 --> 00:04:54.632 we've, we've gone through a few of them. Particularly one in 80 00:04:54.656 --> 00:04:58.050 1993 was very, very strong with 81 00:04:58.090 --> 00:05:01.298 200 mile winds, 225 82 00:05:01.354 --> 00:05:05.154 mile gust winds. Andrew, Hurricane 83 00:05:05.202 --> 00:05:08.946 Andrew and same thing. If you're in the evacuation 84 00:05:09.058 --> 00:05:12.882 zone, you leave everything behind and hope that is there when you 85 00:05:12.906 --> 00:05:16.610 come back. Yeah, I mean being in the uk we often play 86 00:05:16.650 --> 00:05:20.322 about our weather being too hot, too cold, too wet, too windy, whatever. 87 00:05:20.386 --> 00:05:24.178 But our weather really is not in extremes. It's kind of like 88 00:05:24.234 --> 00:05:27.990 middling. Whereas in the us I mean my family and I, we spent some 89 00:05:28.030 --> 00:05:31.702 time in Orlando doing the Disney sort of 90 00:05:31.726 --> 00:05:35.494 experience and we'd never experienced thunderstorms and torrential 91 00:05:35.542 --> 00:05:39.286 rain that lasted like 10 minutes. Thunderstorm, rainstorm, 10 minutes, 92 00:05:39.318 --> 00:05:42.998 then suddenly, poof, it's blue sky again. Never experienced 93 00:05:43.014 --> 00:05:46.822 anything like that. And also I spent some time working in California and 94 00:05:46.846 --> 00:05:50.534 la. Minor earthquakes, but I spent 95 00:05:50.582 --> 00:05:54.026 time in the Beverly Hills area, Santa Monica, 96 00:05:54.138 --> 00:05:57.962 Venice Beach, Long beach, those places down San 97 00:05:57.986 --> 00:06:01.690 Diego. So yeah, you see these environments, you just think they're almost 98 00:06:01.730 --> 00:06:05.178 invincible. But this fire has been a great leveller, isn't it? 99 00:06:05.314 --> 00:06:08.190 Yes, it's levelling. Yes, absolutely. 100 00:06:08.530 --> 00:06:12.010 Yeah. So George's, your 101 00:06:12.050 --> 00:06:15.770 journey from battling advanced cancer to 102 00:06:15.810 --> 00:06:19.510 becoming a holistic health coach is quite remarkable. And so how did this 103 00:06:19.950 --> 00:06:23.798 shape your purpose and to quote you, give you a chance to sing 104 00:06:23.854 --> 00:06:27.638 the song you were Born to sing. Yeah. It's 105 00:06:27.654 --> 00:06:31.290 interesting because many people, Joanne, 106 00:06:31.870 --> 00:06:35.430 don't find their purpose. They go through their life and in a 107 00:06:35.470 --> 00:06:39.270 way existing. Just like Oscar Wilde said 108 00:06:39.310 --> 00:06:43.142 that we were the most interesting folks because all 109 00:06:43.166 --> 00:06:46.710 we do is exist. And I believe in that. And in my 110 00:06:46.750 --> 00:06:50.176 case since I was a youngster, I always 111 00:06:50.328 --> 00:06:53.580 like to help people. Somehow I was born with that, 112 00:06:53.880 --> 00:06:57.632 some talent, if you will. I just. I 113 00:06:57.656 --> 00:07:01.328 was always aware of seeing the less fortunate around 114 00:07:01.384 --> 00:07:04.672 me, especially growing up in South America and 115 00:07:04.696 --> 00:07:08.272 Venezuela. My parents being immigrants, you know, 116 00:07:08.296 --> 00:07:11.840 they worked so much to get back to on their 117 00:07:11.880 --> 00:07:15.564 feet because they lost everything in World War II. My family 118 00:07:15.652 --> 00:07:19.340 from Greece and then the other part of my family from 119 00:07:19.380 --> 00:07:23.228 Spain, they went to Venezuela. They were, they were doing 120 00:07:23.284 --> 00:07:26.860 great in Europe with the war. They, they were 121 00:07:26.900 --> 00:07:30.508 victims of losing pretty much everything. And so, 122 00:07:30.644 --> 00:07:34.332 but, so, but they managed to go to clubs. My 123 00:07:34.356 --> 00:07:38.012 dad ended up playing Davis cup tennis. I learned tennis and 124 00:07:38.036 --> 00:07:41.588 that's how I end up in the United States. But I always 125 00:07:41.644 --> 00:07:45.412 wanted to help people. For example, they would give us allowance at 126 00:07:45.436 --> 00:07:49.236 the club, you know, for the day we would be working out, 127 00:07:49.308 --> 00:07:52.820 learning tennis and practising them. I became part of the 128 00:07:52.860 --> 00:07:56.532 junior national junior team and we had ball boys. 129 00:07:56.676 --> 00:08:00.276 These ball boys were. They were poor kids 130 00:08:00.388 --> 00:08:04.068 that they would, you know, bring in and they would give them 131 00:08:04.124 --> 00:08:07.446 uniforms and they would be our ball boys, even for 132 00:08:07.588 --> 00:08:11.202 kids to kids. And I, I had a lot of 133 00:08:11.226 --> 00:08:14.674 compassion for them and I would convince my, 134 00:08:14.842 --> 00:08:18.690 my friends to give them the change. After we will 135 00:08:18.730 --> 00:08:22.530 go and have snacks, we'll give them the change. So we would go to 136 00:08:22.570 --> 00:08:26.178 where they were gathering. They had them in a place in the club and 137 00:08:26.234 --> 00:08:29.810 we will just give them the change that we got from, from 138 00:08:29.850 --> 00:08:33.650 eating so they could go eat. So that was something that I grew up 139 00:08:33.690 --> 00:08:37.026 with. I learned. I went to school with the Jesuits 140 00:08:37.218 --> 00:08:40.932 and, and they had a ministry to 141 00:08:40.956 --> 00:08:44.548 do some, some help to the areas of less 142 00:08:44.604 --> 00:08:48.388 fortunate favelas and stuff like that. I went to 143 00:08:48.444 --> 00:08:51.876 a place to help the. It was a tribe 144 00:08:51.988 --> 00:08:55.320 in the border between Venezuela and Colombia 145 00:08:55.820 --> 00:08:59.040 and we spent two weeks helping them 146 00:08:59.500 --> 00:09:02.948 building, getting electricity and stuff and just 147 00:09:03.004 --> 00:09:06.702 living, you know, being in hammocks with this amazing 148 00:09:06.766 --> 00:09:09.790 things to protect ourselves with this huge 149 00:09:09.870 --> 00:09:13.198 mosquitoes and. But at the end we will leave 150 00:09:13.294 --> 00:09:17.070 and you know, when you serve others, and I have this in 151 00:09:17.110 --> 00:09:20.942 my book, service is healing as well. We, we have a 152 00:09:20.966 --> 00:09:24.590 component in ourselves, Joanne, that is to 153 00:09:24.630 --> 00:09:28.462 help people to, to be, you know, kind of 154 00:09:28.486 --> 00:09:32.062 like some of the avatars, not only Jesus, but you know, in, in 155 00:09:32.086 --> 00:09:35.930 the, in, in the East Indians, you know, Babaji. 156 00:09:36.010 --> 00:09:38.910 And later on more modern 157 00:09:39.410 --> 00:09:43.066 Paramahanta Yogananda. I read these folks and 158 00:09:43.138 --> 00:09:46.842 it's all about love and service. And I have to tell you this, when 159 00:09:46.866 --> 00:09:50.602 I was ill, I, I still had this compassion. I was 160 00:09:50.626 --> 00:09:53.914 going through regular conventional treatments, 161 00:09:54.042 --> 00:09:57.450 radiotherapy, chemotherapy, but I still joined 162 00:09:57.530 --> 00:10:01.258 a volunteer programme from the American Cancer Society which 163 00:10:01.314 --> 00:10:04.964 was about taking folks that were 164 00:10:05.052 --> 00:10:08.900 ill taken to their, their treatments. And, and the way they 165 00:10:08.940 --> 00:10:12.724 did this is, you know, I was working, I, I, I, folks 166 00:10:12.772 --> 00:10:16.548 in my area that were going through cancer like me. 167 00:10:16.684 --> 00:10:20.452 But you know, I just decided to join. I was in one 168 00:10:20.476 --> 00:10:24.244 of my remissions. I'll tell you in a second about that. But 169 00:10:24.412 --> 00:10:28.260 so I would drive, we would drive patients to their 170 00:10:28.300 --> 00:10:32.142 treatments, we would drop them off and then another volunteer will come 171 00:10:32.166 --> 00:10:35.090 and pick him up. Sometimes those treatments will take longer 172 00:10:35.430 --> 00:10:38.970 so somebody else will pick him up and take him back home. 173 00:10:39.270 --> 00:10:42.990 You know, it's interesting, every time you help somebody from your 174 00:10:43.030 --> 00:10:46.814 heart, at the end of it you think who helped who? 175 00:10:46.982 --> 00:10:50.398 You go home and you say, man, I feel I'm the one. You, you feel 176 00:10:50.454 --> 00:10:54.062 so, such a, you feel fulfilled. And in my book I 177 00:10:54.086 --> 00:10:57.692 say service to others is healing is one of the 178 00:10:57.716 --> 00:11:01.340 things that I experienced. And so that, that was 179 00:11:01.380 --> 00:11:04.940 it. So basically because of things in life, our 180 00:11:04.980 --> 00:11:08.700 parents though, they had a hard time in Europe, so when they get to, to 181 00:11:08.740 --> 00:11:12.572 America, South America, they wanted the best for you. We had 182 00:11:12.596 --> 00:11:16.236 to be either doctors, lawyers or engineers of 183 00:11:16.308 --> 00:11:19.900 some type. Of some type because in that case you would 184 00:11:19.940 --> 00:11:23.772 not suffer if you, there was a, another war or whatever. They had 185 00:11:23.796 --> 00:11:27.260 that trauma. So for me it was easy logic and 186 00:11:27.300 --> 00:11:30.684 mathematics, you know, natural. So I said, well, I'm going to study 187 00:11:30.772 --> 00:11:34.188 engineering. And then I, I had a, you know, I was very 188 00:11:34.244 --> 00:11:38.012 attracted to technology and it was starting, you know, I 189 00:11:38.036 --> 00:11:40.972 was born in 1960 but you know, in 190 00:11:40.996 --> 00:11:44.508 1975 start, you started to see some things and 191 00:11:44.564 --> 00:11:48.268 1980 started my, to study computer science. And I, 192 00:11:48.324 --> 00:11:52.108 I'm blessed because I've seen the transformation of 193 00:11:52.164 --> 00:11:55.772 technology. It took in the beginning, it was 50 years for a 194 00:11:55.796 --> 00:11:59.612 change. Now in our days is like five months. But getting back to 195 00:11:59.636 --> 00:12:03.436 the answer there, it's interesting because when I look back on my, 196 00:12:03.508 --> 00:12:07.292 I'm not sure if I mentioned this to you, but on year eight, I 197 00:12:07.316 --> 00:12:11.148 fought cancer, advanced cancer, melanoma for 10 198 00:12:11.204 --> 00:12:14.668 years and I had 10 surgeries, including four 199 00:12:14.724 --> 00:12:18.544 craniotomies because I have metastasis in my brain 200 00:12:18.732 --> 00:12:22.040 and two gamma knives and two of my eight 201 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:25.880 tumours. When I had my first Craniotomy, they told me. 202 00:12:25.920 --> 00:12:29.496 And again, and here's something very interesting. There's 203 00:12:29.608 --> 00:12:33.096 13 rules of the mind, Joanne, and one of them 204 00:12:33.168 --> 00:12:36.872 is that for us in the west, and when 205 00:12:36.896 --> 00:12:40.472 I say the west is Europe, us, the mind goes to what is 206 00:12:40.496 --> 00:12:44.152 familiar. This is for everyone, but it goes to what is familiar. And in the 207 00:12:44.176 --> 00:12:47.904 west, what is familiar is to go running, almost running 208 00:12:47.952 --> 00:12:51.712 to an oncologist. There's no other option. You just go to 209 00:12:51.736 --> 00:12:55.392 an oncologist, you, you ask for friends and say, hey, do you have, you 210 00:12:55.416 --> 00:12:59.264 know anybody that is good? Because cancer hits everybody indirectly 211 00:12:59.312 --> 00:13:02.992 or directly here in the U.S. by the way, one or 212 00:13:03.016 --> 00:13:06.784 two men, if we don't change our ways, will have cancer in 213 00:13:06.792 --> 00:13:10.512 their lifetime and one of three women will have cancer in their 214 00:13:10.536 --> 00:13:14.234 lifetime. So we're not a healthy nation. Nation. 215 00:13:14.322 --> 00:13:17.950 48% of the nation, it has one or two chronic diseases. 216 00:13:18.530 --> 00:13:22.170 But so anyway, we, we. I'm going through 217 00:13:22.210 --> 00:13:25.642 this stuff and I'm still a 218 00:13:25.666 --> 00:13:29.050 cto. I was, I became a, an executive in 219 00:13:29.090 --> 00:13:32.698 technology, chief technology officer when I got 220 00:13:32.754 --> 00:13:36.458 sick. And so I battled the disease for 10 years. I had 10 221 00:13:36.514 --> 00:13:39.848 surgeries, four craniotomies. But on year 222 00:13:39.904 --> 00:13:43.752 eight, on year eight, and this is why, when you're gonna see 223 00:13:43.776 --> 00:13:47.400 now why I say it gave me the chance to sing the song I was 224 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:50.520 going to sing. On year eight, after my first 225 00:13:50.560 --> 00:13:54.296 craniotomy, they finally, they say 226 00:13:54.368 --> 00:13:57.880 the FDA found a pharma and research 227 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.592 found a type of chemo that would penetrate the 228 00:14:01.616 --> 00:14:05.160 brain. And so they gave me that in the form of, it was 229 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.306 oral, it, it was capsules which by the way, 230 00:14:08.378 --> 00:14:12.130 $1,000 for each capsule. It's crazy. 231 00:14:12.210 --> 00:14:14.990 By year eight, we had to tap into 232 00:14:15.450 --> 00:14:18.898 retirement accounts, we had to tap in into our kids 233 00:14:19.074 --> 00:14:22.802 college funds that we were basically saving for. We were 234 00:14:22.826 --> 00:14:25.950 doing good. I was a cto. My wife was in the medical 235 00:14:27.210 --> 00:14:30.150 industry as a, as an ultrasound tech 236 00:14:30.650 --> 00:14:33.342 for, for cardiovascular and 237 00:14:33.366 --> 00:14:36.810 obstetrics. So we were doing well. But 238 00:14:37.190 --> 00:14:40.910 boy, when, when this stuff hit us. But on year eight, I 239 00:14:40.950 --> 00:14:44.590 started taking this pills. It was Monday through 240 00:14:44.630 --> 00:14:48.366 Friday and then take a break on the weekend and then Monday to Friday 241 00:14:48.438 --> 00:14:51.550 again. On my second Monday, my sixth 242 00:14:51.710 --> 00:14:55.150 capsule, I thought I was going to get a heart attack. I just could 243 00:14:55.190 --> 00:14:58.730 not. Like I said in my book in the introduction, 244 00:14:58.810 --> 00:15:02.186 pharmas almost killed me. I mean, killed me. 245 00:15:02.258 --> 00:15:05.770 And so I just had 246 00:15:05.810 --> 00:15:09.386 this very fast palpitations. I got dizzy, I started 247 00:15:09.458 --> 00:15:13.130 sweating and I was alone. The kids were in school, my wife was 248 00:15:13.170 --> 00:15:16.554 working. I had to stop working after 18 249 00:15:16.642 --> 00:15:20.442 months. It was tough and so at that moment, Joanne and 250 00:15:20.466 --> 00:15:24.186 I decided, you know what? This is, this is not working for me. This, it's 251 00:15:24.218 --> 00:15:27.738 just really not working for me. I need to go on a different route. 252 00:15:27.834 --> 00:15:31.654 And by that time I was looking, looking into things, you know, that were 253 00:15:31.742 --> 00:15:35.318 natural, not chemicals. And because 254 00:15:35.374 --> 00:15:38.950 I'm a person of faith as well, I, you know, 255 00:15:39.070 --> 00:15:42.630 when my wife got home, I said, look, I'm stopping this. Are you sure? What, 256 00:15:42.670 --> 00:15:46.422 what are you doing? Well, no, no, say, look, I know myself. This 257 00:15:46.446 --> 00:15:50.054 is not, this is killing me. So I'm not doing any more chemo 258 00:15:50.102 --> 00:15:53.782 and radio already. I'm going to go natural. I'm going to go on the 259 00:15:53.806 --> 00:15:57.494 holistic journey and holistic health journey to, 260 00:15:57.582 --> 00:16:01.158 to, to survive. And this 261 00:16:01.214 --> 00:16:04.806 past July 24, it was my 12th year 262 00:16:04.878 --> 00:16:08.694 free of cancer. So. But it's, and you know, 263 00:16:08.782 --> 00:16:12.390 a lot of many things happened there and, and as I was 264 00:16:12.430 --> 00:16:16.070 going through my, my process, I, I 265 00:16:16.110 --> 00:16:19.862 stopped, you know, blaming the world of the universe. 266 00:16:19.926 --> 00:16:23.254 I mean, it was my fault, you know, you know, we need to understand we, 267 00:16:23.342 --> 00:16:26.838 if we handle humble ourselves, it was us, it's us 268 00:16:26.894 --> 00:16:30.598 that get us ourselves sick. Our lifestyle, maybe we're 269 00:16:30.614 --> 00:16:34.294 too stressful, doing too many things, whatever, whatever 270 00:16:34.342 --> 00:16:38.102 it is, but it, it is us. I'm, 271 00:16:38.166 --> 00:16:42.006 I'm a nutritionist as well. And you know, I have, 272 00:16:42.078 --> 00:16:44.610 you know, basically have to tell you that 273 00:16:45.790 --> 00:16:49.520 25% of nutrition and digestion is what you 274 00:16:49.560 --> 00:16:53.120 eat. 75% is who you are when you 275 00:16:53.160 --> 00:16:56.848 eating, are you eating in a hurry? Do you chew very few times 276 00:16:56.904 --> 00:17:00.432 before you swallow? I mean, there are so many things that we do to get 277 00:17:00.456 --> 00:17:04.176 us ourselves sick. Then comes another thing. When you, 278 00:17:04.248 --> 00:17:07.984 when you study holistic health, and this is pretty 279 00:17:08.032 --> 00:17:11.760 much a fact, these are facts. All chronic diseases, 280 00:17:11.840 --> 00:17:15.529 Joanne, all of them, without exception, cancer included, 281 00:17:15.609 --> 00:17:19.433 start in an acidic body and inflamed bodies. 282 00:17:19.481 --> 00:17:22.969 We have inflamed tissue because we have too much acid in our 283 00:17:23.009 --> 00:17:26.313 cells. Dieting, maybe we stress so we produce 284 00:17:26.361 --> 00:17:30.121 cortisol. And also, and this is, was found out not 285 00:17:30.145 --> 00:17:33.817 too long ago after epigenetics. All disease 286 00:17:33.993 --> 00:17:37.689 by the way, is emotional as well. And 287 00:17:37.729 --> 00:17:41.404 that's why many people get recurrences because doctors 288 00:17:41.452 --> 00:17:45.036 are not nutritionists, they're not psychologists, 289 00:17:45.148 --> 00:17:48.732 they're not acupuncturists, they're not Reiki 290 00:17:48.796 --> 00:17:52.508 or massage therapists. They just know what they, they change. 291 00:17:52.564 --> 00:17:56.220 Go ahead. Yeah, so listen to that. It's 292 00:17:56.300 --> 00:17:59.280 just contextualising. So you had multiple 293 00:18:00.900 --> 00:18:04.508 cranial surgery. So that's basically peeling back your skin, taking 294 00:18:04.564 --> 00:18:08.294 all bits of your skull off. They Actually saw. I 295 00:18:08.302 --> 00:18:11.686 don't know if you can see because I have. It's a night. I have 296 00:18:11.758 --> 00:18:15.398 scars. Obviously I was lucky because I didn't get many 297 00:18:15.454 --> 00:18:19.302 cavities. You know, sometimes when they remove the tumour, then, then 298 00:18:19.326 --> 00:18:23.062 you get like a cavity there. My first one was from ear to ear. 299 00:18:23.246 --> 00:18:26.838 Here is two, three and in this side 300 00:18:26.894 --> 00:18:30.470 four. And the two gamma knives. Two of the eight 301 00:18:30.510 --> 00:18:34.090 tumours that I got in my brain were not operable. 302 00:18:34.830 --> 00:18:38.518 So that I'm gonna let. Let you guys if. 303 00:18:38.574 --> 00:18:42.342 If you have a chance to. To get the book. It. It 304 00:18:42.366 --> 00:18:46.054 is very interesting be. You know, I have not promoted 305 00:18:46.102 --> 00:18:49.526 my books and it's. I'm writing two more. 306 00:18:49.678 --> 00:18:53.318 When I say my books is because I first launched it in English, 307 00:18:53.494 --> 00:18:56.998 but then I launched it in Spanish three months later and on St. 308 00:18:57.014 --> 00:19:00.582 George's Day in April, this is 2021 309 00:19:00.686 --> 00:19:04.512 Spanish in. They both made bestseller in my gender and the 310 00:19:04.536 --> 00:19:08.064 first day. And that. That was remarkable. I'm 311 00:19:08.112 --> 00:19:11.616 thinking how can this happen? And you, you find out that, 312 00:19:11.768 --> 00:19:15.360 you know, there's many people going through this disease. 313 00:19:15.520 --> 00:19:19.024 It's becoming really. To give you a perspective during 314 00:19:19.112 --> 00:19:22.800 COVID which actually I think took about 5 315 00:19:22.840 --> 00:19:26.432 million lives in a year and a 316 00:19:26.456 --> 00:19:30.268 half to two years on 20, 21, 10 317 00:19:30.324 --> 00:19:33.932 million people pass of cancer. So the 318 00:19:33.956 --> 00:19:37.788 real pandemic is this. You know, it's just why. Why 319 00:19:37.844 --> 00:19:40.684 does it happen and why does it still 320 00:19:40.772 --> 00:19:44.508 recurring, you know, and, and, and the reason is 321 00:19:44.564 --> 00:19:48.316 because the doctors are not into finding 322 00:19:48.348 --> 00:19:52.172 the root cause. They're just going there to throw the kitchen sink on you 323 00:19:52.196 --> 00:19:55.786 like it's. We say in America and try everything they can 324 00:19:55.858 --> 00:19:59.498 new new formalities and see how they can help Georges 325 00:19:59.594 --> 00:20:03.066 or you know, the different patients. Are you saying 326 00:20:03.138 --> 00:20:06.986 this. This all stemmed from melanoma, which is skin cancer? That's. It's 327 00:20:07.018 --> 00:20:10.698 skin cancer. Yes. And travel from that. Yeah. Yes. 328 00:20:10.794 --> 00:20:13.866 By the way, great, great question there. Great point. Because 329 00:20:13.938 --> 00:20:17.706 melanoma still is hard to. To really 330 00:20:17.778 --> 00:20:20.618 contain. It's very unpredictable and is very 331 00:20:20.674 --> 00:20:23.540 aggressive. It's probably. 332 00:20:24.040 --> 00:20:27.520 It's right neck to neck with pancreatic cancer. 333 00:20:27.600 --> 00:20:31.312 If you know, to give you an example, my last two tumours and I 334 00:20:31.336 --> 00:20:35.024 was already on year eight after those capsules, I decided 335 00:20:35.072 --> 00:20:38.736 to go natural and I was lucky because basically 336 00:20:38.848 --> 00:20:42.528 the moment I surrendered, I went to this chapel and I cried. 337 00:20:42.624 --> 00:20:46.288 I cried for. I just. I mean I was releasing 338 00:20:46.464 --> 00:20:50.256 so much. You know. Crying is healing, by the way. Cleans your soul and. 339 00:20:50.328 --> 00:20:54.172 But I surrender. I say, look, these guys, they're trying, but you 340 00:20:54.196 --> 00:20:57.932 know, this is not Working for me. Give me some discernment to look for 341 00:20:57.956 --> 00:21:01.452 alternatives. I'm really very close to make this decision. 342 00:21:01.556 --> 00:21:05.228 And obviously, I have a surgeon in my family. His wife. 343 00:21:05.324 --> 00:21:09.036 They're both my. My daughters got parents. They were. 344 00:21:09.108 --> 00:21:12.732 And my wife. No, no, you crazy. Keep going. Like 345 00:21:12.756 --> 00:21:16.460 there's no other alternative. But I. Because of my 346 00:21:16.500 --> 00:21:20.192 tennis, too, I saw cancer. It got to a point. Point for 347 00:21:20.216 --> 00:21:23.984 me that said. I said, you know what? There's a reason 348 00:21:24.152 --> 00:21:27.744 why I'm the only one from all my cohorts that started 349 00:21:27.832 --> 00:21:31.680 with me, the treatments, that I'm the only one that has survived. I 350 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:35.264 had some survival, like guilt, survival guilt. 351 00:21:35.312 --> 00:21:39.120 I'm the only one that survived. There's got to be a reason. And 352 00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:42.960 at that moment, I. When I decided to go natural, I said, you know what? 353 00:21:43.080 --> 00:21:46.320 This is going to work. And I have to share something with you, 354 00:21:46.360 --> 00:21:50.140 Joanne. From my Greek side of the family, 355 00:21:50.520 --> 00:21:54.128 I saw cancer taking the life of my grandparents, 356 00:21:54.304 --> 00:21:58.032 his brother, and that was four or five years old. Then my 357 00:21:58.056 --> 00:22:01.552 grandmother's two sisters of three. She had three 358 00:22:01.576 --> 00:22:04.976 sisters. Two of them passed from cancer. Then my 359 00:22:05.048 --> 00:22:08.832 godfather, also part of the Greek family that went to 360 00:22:08.856 --> 00:22:12.544 Venezuela, passed with cancer. Then my uncle, my mother's 361 00:22:12.592 --> 00:22:16.220 brother. And three weeks before I was diagnosed, my 362 00:22:16.260 --> 00:22:19.868 mother passed of cancer. So for me, 363 00:22:19.924 --> 00:22:23.692 as a kid, I remember this. The secret, the 364 00:22:23.716 --> 00:22:27.436 power of the. You know, not like hearing something and you might 365 00:22:27.508 --> 00:22:31.260 actually end up getting it. I was not surprised when I was 366 00:22:31.300 --> 00:22:35.100 diagnosed, I couldn't even mould my mother. But I said, because 367 00:22:35.140 --> 00:22:38.508 I always thought, man, I'm doomed. And I never saw 368 00:22:38.564 --> 00:22:42.390 anyone. And here's part of the title of the talk of what 369 00:22:42.430 --> 00:22:45.942 we're doing today. I said at one point, when I went through all the 370 00:22:45.966 --> 00:22:49.766 emotional roller coaster, I said, you know what? I'm going to beat 371 00:22:49.798 --> 00:22:53.410 the odds. I'm going to be the first person from my Greek family 372 00:22:53.790 --> 00:22:57.126 that survives this thing. And I went on my journey, 373 00:22:57.318 --> 00:23:00.742 and I. It came to a point that I said, man, this is 374 00:23:00.766 --> 00:23:04.486 not happening to me. It's happening for me. There's 375 00:23:04.518 --> 00:23:08.220 something going on here. I loved. I love technology, 376 00:23:08.760 --> 00:23:12.448 but my inner self, without knowing this, 377 00:23:12.584 --> 00:23:16.352 I mean that I always felt it. If I could help somebody open a 378 00:23:16.376 --> 00:23:20.112 door, an elderly person opening the door in the. In the 379 00:23:20.136 --> 00:23:23.952 gas station or at a supermarket or a store, I 380 00:23:23.976 --> 00:23:27.616 would do it. So. So I made that decision, 381 00:23:27.768 --> 00:23:31.456 and I went to my oncologist again. 382 00:23:31.528 --> 00:23:34.796 I thought he was going to, you know, give me hard time. And he goes, 383 00:23:34.828 --> 00:23:38.540 are you sure, Georges, that you want to stop? And I said, doctor, look 384 00:23:38.580 --> 00:23:42.316 it's been almost eight years and I'm, I'm 385 00:23:42.348 --> 00:23:45.852 here, you know, surgery, treatment, remission, 386 00:23:45.996 --> 00:23:49.548 recurrence. Surgery, treatment, remission, recurrence, eight 387 00:23:49.604 --> 00:23:53.228 years and the last one now in the brain. So I'm 388 00:23:53.244 --> 00:23:57.004 going natural. And so he asked me again, I said, yes doctor, 389 00:23:57.052 --> 00:24:00.672 but I would appreciate if you could continue to do follow ups on 390 00:24:00.696 --> 00:24:04.400 me. And he agreed. He said, okay, Georges, and if 391 00:24:04.520 --> 00:24:08.224 what you're doing is not working, something else came up approved 392 00:24:08.272 --> 00:24:11.520 by the fda and then maybe that would help you 393 00:24:11.560 --> 00:24:15.072 because all they're doing is applying the stuff that 394 00:24:15.096 --> 00:24:18.832 they find. You must have felt a lot of back pressure from the 395 00:24:18.856 --> 00:24:22.352 medical professionals because medical science 396 00:24:22.416 --> 00:24:26.128 says holistic non medical intervention 397 00:24:26.224 --> 00:24:29.240 is just a myth, is mumbo jumbo. 398 00:24:30.940 --> 00:24:34.452 You're signing your own death warrant. Medical science is proved to 399 00:24:34.476 --> 00:24:37.960 work. Everything you're doing, you're just effectively 400 00:24:38.700 --> 00:24:42.100 praying and hoping and miracles don't 401 00:24:42.180 --> 00:24:45.460