WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:08.104 Welcome 00:00:08.232 --> 00:00:11.912 to Inclusion Bites, your sanctuary for bold 00:00:11.976 --> 00:00:15.960 conversations that spark change. I'm Joanne Lockwood, your guide on 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:19.512 this journey of exploration into the heart of inclusion, 00:00:19.656 --> 00:00:23.400 belonging and societal transformation. Ever 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:27.232 wondered what it truly takes to create a world where everyone not 00:00:27.256 --> 00:00:31.056 only belongs but thrives? You're not alone. 00:00:31.248 --> 00:00:35.136 Join me as we uncover the unseen, challenge 00:00:35.168 --> 00:00:38.720 the status quo and share stories that resonate 00:00:38.800 --> 00:00:42.416 deep within. Ready to dive in? Whether you're 00:00:42.448 --> 00:00:46.336 sipping your morning coffee or winding down after a long day, let's 00:00:46.368 --> 00:00:49.840 connect, reflect and inspire action 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:53.654 together. Don't forget, you can be part of the conversation 00:00:53.702 --> 00:00:55.158 too. Reach out to 00:00:55.214 --> 00:00:58.886 jo.lockwood@seechangehappen.co.uk 00:00:59.038 --> 00:01:02.850 to share your insights or to join me on the show. 00:01:03.390 --> 00:01:07.190 So adjust your earbuds and settle in. It's time to 00:01:07.230 --> 00:01:11.050 ignite the spark of inclusion with inclusion bites. 00:01:43.330 --> 00:01:44.070 It 00:02:08.860 --> 00:02:09.600 it. 00:02:35.350 --> 00:02:39.210 And today is episode 150 00:02:39.830 --> 00:02:43.486 with the title From Toxins to Transformation. 00:02:43.678 --> 00:02:46.814 And I have the absolute honour and privilege to welcome Christian 00:02:46.862 --> 00:02:50.558 Elliot. Christian is a certified personal trainer, 00:02:50.654 --> 00:02:54.382 nutritionist, life coach and founder of 00:02:54.406 --> 00:02:57.950 Healing United, who are dedicated to empowering people to 00:02:57.990 --> 00:03:01.342 reclaim their health through personalised holistic 00:03:01.486 --> 00:03:05.486 detox programmes. When I asked Christian to describe his superpower, 00:03:05.518 --> 00:03:09.278 he said it is simplifying complex health concepts 00:03:09.454 --> 00:03:13.230 into actionable, transformative solutions. 00:03:13.390 --> 00:03:17.358 Hello, Christian. Welcome to the show. Well, hello to you and thank 00:03:17.374 --> 00:03:21.294 you for having me. My pleasure. Am I right thinking 00:03:21.342 --> 00:03:25.294 you're based in Florida? That is correct, yes. I live in the 00:03:25.302 --> 00:03:29.184 Sunshine State and love it here. Wow. You've got the 00:03:29.192 --> 00:03:32.736 weather, we've got the rain, we've got the cold, so, yeah, quite 00:03:32.768 --> 00:03:36.512 envious. Yeah. This time of year a lot of people are. Yes. 00:03:36.656 --> 00:03:40.608 I remember holidaying there with my family back in the early 00:03:40.664 --> 00:03:44.624 2000s. Yeah, we had a great time. Did the Orlando experience. I did a bit 00:03:44.632 --> 00:03:48.432 of work out there in the Miami area back in the 90s. 00:03:48.496 --> 00:03:51.792 So, yeah, I've been to Florida, but it's been a long while. 20 odd years 00:03:51.896 --> 00:03:55.258 since I've been there. No, it's a great place and fewer of us are deficient 00:03:55.274 --> 00:03:58.682 in vitamin D here. And there's some upside to that. We have some of the 00:03:58.706 --> 00:04:02.426 nicest beaches in the world. Yeah, the Keys and. Yeah, 00:04:02.458 --> 00:04:05.930 it's. And you got. Was it crocodiles or alligators? We get 00:04:05.970 --> 00:04:09.834 alligators. We don't get crocodiles, thankfully. Yeah. I mean, I 00:04:09.842 --> 00:04:13.626 remember going to Gator World and seeing the. Yeah, I suppose that's a clue. 00:04:13.658 --> 00:04:16.870 Gator World. Yeah. Yeah. They're less 00:04:17.330 --> 00:04:21.292 intrusive or threatening than maybe the stereotype, but they 00:04:21.316 --> 00:04:25.100 are Here. Yeah. I remember driving around the suburbs 00:04:25.180 --> 00:04:29.148 and there was signs saying, beware of the crocodiles because they're 00:04:29.164 --> 00:04:32.396 obviously the streams on the side of the road. And things like, you think, oh, 00:04:32.428 --> 00:04:36.412 wow. Don'T go wandering off into 00:04:36.596 --> 00:04:40.556 natural water elements without your eyes wide 00:04:40.588 --> 00:04:44.572 open. Yeah, yeah. We did one of those skimmers, the boats with a big 00:04:44.596 --> 00:04:48.094 fan on the back. We skimmer, boat, water and airboat. That's it. Yeah. And that 00:04:48.102 --> 00:04:52.030 was quite good fun. Yeah. So question your passion for 00:04:52.070 --> 00:04:55.790 holistic health. Reading the show notes, it's clear you know what inspired you to break 00:04:55.830 --> 00:04:59.390 away the more conventional healthcare and 00:04:59.430 --> 00:05:03.294 creative, personalised approach to true wellness, if you like. Yeah, I 00:05:03.302 --> 00:05:07.214 guess as much because conventional was just failing me. I've been to half a 00:05:07.222 --> 00:05:10.894 dozen different doctors trying to get well and nothing worked. 00:05:10.942 --> 00:05:14.750 And I found a chiropractor, wasn't even looking for one, 00:05:14.790 --> 00:05:18.546 just happened to be my wife's bridesmaid, went for carpal tunnel 00:05:18.578 --> 00:05:22.530 syndrome and I was like, well, she, my shoulder condition, that one, 00:05:22.570 --> 00:05:25.430 that was one of the main drivers of trying to heal. 00:05:26.250 --> 00:05:29.218 I'm like, the shoulder's closer to the spine than the wrist. That's about the extent 00:05:29.234 --> 00:05:33.202 of what I knew about chiropractic. So I thought, well, shoot, then maybe they 00:05:33.226 --> 00:05:35.634 can help me. So I went there and he blew my mind. He turned my 00:05:35.642 --> 00:05:39.378 paradigm of health upside down. He taught me about what 00:05:39.434 --> 00:05:42.994 I've come to call the food industrial complex or the medical industrial complex, 00:05:43.042 --> 00:05:46.990 this big high level system that 00:05:47.110 --> 00:05:50.910 has really profit ahead of people and that is really 00:05:50.950 --> 00:05:54.862 interested in the medical world and treating symptoms rather than getting to 00:05:54.886 --> 00:05:58.782 root causes. And so I had to get outside that to find how 00:05:58.806 --> 00:06:02.734 to heal. And sure enough, I healed well and in some ways have the 00:06:02.742 --> 00:06:06.126 health that a lot of people envy today because I just became a very concentrated 00:06:06.158 --> 00:06:10.014 student for about two years trying to understand what I thought, like why in the 00:06:10.022 --> 00:06:12.782 world is my healing journey not the normal way we do things? And so I 00:06:12.806 --> 00:06:16.432 had to peel the layers of that onion to find out why. Isn't 00:06:16.496 --> 00:06:20.464 this how we approach sickness? And there's just some, you 00:06:20.472 --> 00:06:24.464 know, there's business and ugly realities behind why that the systems are the way 00:06:24.472 --> 00:06:28.416 they are. And so I became a kid in a candy store trying to figure 00:06:28.448 --> 00:06:32.432 out what other things like this do I not know about? How many other profound 00:06:32.496 --> 00:06:36.256 ways to heal are there that are either just poo 00:06:36.288 --> 00:06:39.930 pooed or suppressed or I'm just ignorant of. And so I 00:06:39.970 --> 00:06:43.946 became a student of what we call the alternative world. I think that's 00:06:43.978 --> 00:06:47.962 also a label that conventional loves to give us. But anything that's outside of 00:06:48.146 --> 00:06:51.882 treat symptoms or cut, burn, poison is really, 00:06:51.986 --> 00:06:55.722 there's so many ways to help the body heal. And what I found is 00:06:55.746 --> 00:06:59.514 there's merit to a lot of it and it can heal in profound ways 00:06:59.562 --> 00:07:03.114 that medications and surgeries and radiation does not. And once 00:07:03.202 --> 00:07:07.118 I studied that at breadth and I couldn't go back, 00:07:07.174 --> 00:07:09.982 I couldn't pretend I didn't see what I saw. And so we ended up with 00:07:10.006 --> 00:07:13.742 brick and mortar locations. For nine years. We aggregated a whole bunch of different wellness 00:07:13.806 --> 00:07:17.790 disciplines, alternative modalities in one place. And I just, I got to 00:07:17.830 --> 00:07:21.790 watch how a holistic healing approach could really 00:07:21.830 --> 00:07:25.370 transform someone's health in short order or in 00:07:25.750 --> 00:07:29.726 with an appropriate degree of patience and discipline in dramatic fashion 00:07:29.758 --> 00:07:33.710 to where they're literally a transformed person. And that just 00:07:33.750 --> 00:07:37.262 became I want to do what I can to leave a mark on this world 00:07:37.286 --> 00:07:40.734 that says there's a better model for healthcare. I want to flip the current one 00:07:40.742 --> 00:07:43.614 on its head and say let's map out a better way. We don't have to 00:07:43.622 --> 00:07:47.022 fight the system as much as just show a better model. And so that's really 00:07:47.046 --> 00:07:50.862 been my work the last 20 years is as doing my part to 00:07:50.886 --> 00:07:54.398 demonstrate that. And because I've seen so many things, I can often 00:07:54.454 --> 00:07:58.260 simplify and spare people a lot of wrong turns or help 00:07:58.300 --> 00:08:02.292 them see through marketing gimmicks and shiny objects and options that 00:08:02.316 --> 00:08:05.620 are really just majoring in minors and aren't getting to the heart of the problem. 00:08:05.740 --> 00:08:09.652 Is it fair to say that most of us are kind of killing ourselves 00:08:09.716 --> 00:08:13.700 with what we're eating, what we're consuming, our body mass, of our 00:08:13.740 --> 00:08:17.604 lack of exercise, our health, our food choices. This is contributing factor to many of 00:08:17.612 --> 00:08:21.524 the problems we experience in society today, isn't it? It is and it's. Some 00:08:21.532 --> 00:08:25.124 of it is self inflicted and a lot of it is not. It's 00:08:25.172 --> 00:08:29.124 externally imposed. And one of the most eye opening experiences I 00:08:29.132 --> 00:08:32.608 had in my journey 2006 I read a book called the Hundred Year 00:08:32.664 --> 00:08:36.368 Lie. So he's retracing from 1906 to 2000. 00:08:36.504 --> 00:08:40.032 So he starts with the Pure Food and Drug act, which basically birthed the FDA 00:08:40.176 --> 00:08:43.984 and this idea that we would have pure foods and pure drugs. And the slogan 00:08:44.032 --> 00:08:47.392 better living through chemistry kind of came into vogue as we were going to use 00:08:47.416 --> 00:08:51.312 chemistry and reductionist thinking and a pill for every ill to 00:08:51.336 --> 00:08:55.040 solve all of our problems. And chemistry would make everything better. And what we also 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:59.040 birthed was chemicals for warfare. And we, we switched after World 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.876 War II to chemicals for warfare, for our food system, went to war against microbes 00:09:02.908 --> 00:09:06.812 and bugs and any sort of thing that was inconvenient 00:09:06.876 --> 00:09:10.732 in a healthy food system. We went to war against those so 00:09:10.756 --> 00:09:14.652 called inconveniences and in so doing we, we created in 00:09:14.676 --> 00:09:18.444 the last, you know, he traces in the book Over 80,000 synthetic chemicals, basically 00:09:18.492 --> 00:09:22.204 new to nature, molecules that our bodies were never designed 00:09:22.332 --> 00:09:25.900 to work with. They're, they are just corrosive or they 00:09:25.940 --> 00:09:29.922 interact in synergistic ways that we can't account for. And when 00:09:29.946 --> 00:09:33.874 you realise that happened with medicine and it's this mindset that we're going to 00:09:33.882 --> 00:09:37.698 treat sickness with whatever symptom you have, there's a pill for that, 00:09:37.834 --> 00:09:41.138 rather than saying where did the symptom come from? We're just in. The really 00:09:41.194 --> 00:09:44.910 monopolistic healthcare system was built on that foundation of 00:09:45.290 --> 00:09:49.266 standardisation and symptom management. You know, it sounds 00:09:49.298 --> 00:09:52.978 maybe somewhat cynical to say, but kind of the model or the motto of 00:09:53.114 --> 00:09:56.850 conventional healthcare is a patient that's cured as a customer lost. And 00:09:56.890 --> 00:10:00.618 so it's meant to keep them on a treadmill of 00:10:00.754 --> 00:10:03.994 services, if you will, of really. It's funny to think about it, but the word 00:10:04.042 --> 00:10:07.850 pharmaceutical actually comes from the word pharmakia, which 00:10:07.890 --> 00:10:11.498 means witchcraft or sorcery. It's this idea of like using 00:10:11.554 --> 00:10:15.306 potions to tinker with our biology rather 00:10:15.338 --> 00:10:19.130 than saying it's if we're using a chemical solution to treat a chemical problem, 00:10:19.250 --> 00:10:22.986 which doesn't really make much sense, we can't biochemical whack a mole our 00:10:23.058 --> 00:10:26.932 way out of being poisoned. And if you'll look at the US as 00:10:27.036 --> 00:10:30.692 some of the worst health statistics in the world, we are free falling 00:10:30.836 --> 00:10:34.292 in our health here and such to the point that, you know, in 00:10:34.316 --> 00:10:38.260 1930s about seven and a half percent of the population had a chronic health 00:10:38.300 --> 00:10:42.068 condition. Today, six out of ten people have at least 00:10:42.124 --> 00:10:46.020 one. So from seven and a half percent to 60% in a matter 00:10:46.060 --> 00:10:49.972 of decades, one of the major things we have to swallow is 00:10:49.996 --> 00:10:53.666 that we are poisoning ourselves, to your point, with our foods and with our medicines 00:10:53.698 --> 00:10:57.618 and with the stuff in the air and the jet fuel exhaust that covers 00:10:57.634 --> 00:11:00.722 the earth and the smog in our cities and the fluoride in our water and 00:11:00.746 --> 00:11:04.210 on and on and when. If we can't get our head around the source of 00:11:04.250 --> 00:11:07.922 this problem and we're going to play symptom whack a mole, if we can't think 00:11:07.946 --> 00:11:11.922 outside the periodic table in order to better our health, then we 00:11:11.946 --> 00:11:14.114 are going to stay stuck in this loop and we do have to get out 00:11:14.122 --> 00:11:17.516 of it. And that's really what I've been, I'm somewhat of a locust eating prophet 00:11:17.548 --> 00:11:20.924 in the wilderness trying to talk about that 00:11:21.012 --> 00:11:24.876 problem really since I started, since I became aware of it. 00:11:25.028 --> 00:11:28.716 And so here we are full circle to 20 years later, 00:11:28.868 --> 00:11:32.700 19 years since I read that book. And now it's not 00:11:32.740 --> 00:11:36.684 so taboo to talk about fluoride and vaccines and, and chemical 00:11:36.732 --> 00:11:40.172 toxins in our food and plastics and heavy metals in such in a way that 00:11:40.196 --> 00:11:43.920 it used to be. And now we can have much more honest conversations about where 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:47.568 this is going. And the beautiful, you know the title you came up with here, 00:11:47.624 --> 00:11:50.544 the beautiful simplicity is it doesn't have to be complicated to get well, we have 00:11:50.552 --> 00:11:53.984 to get the toxins out. Then we have to nourish the body. So we purify 00:11:54.032 --> 00:11:57.888 it and nourish it and it can be that simple. When you break it down. 00:11:58.024 --> 00:12:01.824 There are obviously times where I use the word conventional. 00:12:01.872 --> 00:12:05.456 I mean other by using that word we're making it sound like that's the best 00:12:05.528 --> 00:12:09.514 one. Conventional, right, yeah. We've got to challenge the biases. You 00:12:09.522 --> 00:12:13.210 know, you've talked about alternative, we've got conventional. Even the language of that 00:12:13.250 --> 00:12:17.194 implies that one is better than the other, if you like. Correct? Yes. Sometimes just 00:12:17.282 --> 00:12:21.114 the conventional pharma medicines, drugs, vaccines 00:12:21.242 --> 00:12:25.098 have, have a place they work for a lot of people 00:12:25.154 --> 00:12:28.874 and there's times where they don't work. And we can clearly see examples where 00:12:28.962 --> 00:12:32.758 people have almost exhausted every conventional route 00:12:32.954 --> 00:12:36.478 and then the alternative medicine, alternative treatments, 00:12:36.654 --> 00:12:40.622 very remarkable of a way of stepping in at that point. They do well. 00:12:40.646 --> 00:12:43.518 And I'll even back it up one frame just to where you started with the, 00:12:43.574 --> 00:12:47.550 the, what we have in Western societies in particular the US 00:12:47.590 --> 00:12:51.342 is we have linguistic handcuffs. We, the so called conventional 00:12:51.406 --> 00:12:55.198 model has claimed for itself the exclusive rights to use 00:12:55.254 --> 00:12:59.110 words like cure, treat, prevent, mitigate or ameliorate and 00:12:59.150 --> 00:13:02.886 everything so called alternative is not allowed to use those terms. So I literally 00:13:02.918 --> 00:13:06.742 cannot say to you that water prevents dehydration or could cure dehydration 00:13:06.886 --> 00:13:10.230 because I'm now making a drug claim about a natural product and that's a no, 00:13:10.270 --> 00:13:13.926 no. And so the language police and the 00:13:13.998 --> 00:13:17.798 linguistic handcuffs that the so called alternative world is in is that was also 00:13:17.854 --> 00:13:21.782 chosen. They chose to claim we are conventional, we have science, be careful. 00:13:21.846 --> 00:13:24.832 Anything else? If you don't, if you don't follow what we do, you're, we are 00:13:24.856 --> 00:13:28.384 off the reservation and this is dangerous. And that was intentional 00:13:28.432 --> 00:13:32.352 to seep into the culture, the mindset that taking ownership for your 00:13:32.376 --> 00:13:36.224 health, we're exploring things outside of literally cut, burn, poison. It 00:13:36.232 --> 00:13:39.952 sounds barbaric to say, but that is the model of healthcare that is called conventional. 00:13:40.096 --> 00:13:43.472 Poison your body into submission. If it's not working, cut parts out. And if you 00:13:43.496 --> 00:13:47.344 got something significant, we can radiate you, we can burn you and burn 00:13:47.392 --> 00:13:51.046 that part of your body in order to help it heal. And the basic logic 00:13:51.078 --> 00:13:54.770 of that doesn't handle a stress test very well. So why is that 00:13:55.150 --> 00:13:59.046 conventional? And when you can recognise that, oh, that's 00:13:59.078 --> 00:14:01.910 the model, and you rewind the history of it to figure out how it was 00:14:01.950 --> 00:14:05.606 set up and who set it up and why, and how they wove into 00:14:05.758 --> 00:14:09.670 legislating themselves into the title of conventional and 00:14:09.710 --> 00:14:13.542 corralling the medical community into this licensure standard of 00:14:13.566 --> 00:14:17.470 care and who was on the in club and who's out. That system 00:14:17.510 --> 00:14:20.942 was set up to control things. So us in the alternative world, we have to 00:14:20.966 --> 00:14:23.534 figure out how to say, well, this helps the body heal and it doesn't cure, 00:14:23.582 --> 00:14:26.894 treat or prevent anything, but it can help empower different systems of your body to 00:14:26.902 --> 00:14:30.766 function more optimally. And in truth, that's actually what we're doing. We're not treating 00:14:30.798 --> 00:14:34.270 or curing or preventing anything. Guess what does that the body does that. The body 00:14:34.310 --> 00:14:38.222 is what heals itself, the intervention doesn't. And so then 00:14:38.246 --> 00:14:41.742 it becomes, to your point, what things, what interventions, what modalities? 00:14:41.806 --> 00:14:45.448 What things can I swallow assist the body in 00:14:45.504 --> 00:14:49.320 functioning more optimally? And you can also ask the question, what 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:53.048 keeps the body from optimally functioning? What keeps the body from being able 00:14:53.104 --> 00:14:56.312 to heal? Why do we have these kind of 00:14:56.496 --> 00:15:00.216 situations in the first place? Because they're typically a product of very prosperous 00:15:00.248 --> 00:15:04.232 societies where we don't have to connect with 00:15:04.256 --> 00:15:08.088 the land anymore, we don't know where our food comes from and we're detached from 00:15:08.144 --> 00:15:11.934 intuition, then we've outsourced our health to people who have the 00:15:11.942 --> 00:15:15.774 title expert. And as if because we don't 00:15:15.822 --> 00:15:19.358 have education in pharmacology, therefore we are not 00:15:19.414 --> 00:15:23.086 qualified to manage our own health. And so there's 00:15:23.118 --> 00:15:27.070 this pedestal we put doctors on, as if 00:15:27.110 --> 00:15:30.510 they have the answer. And in any discipline, doesn't matter where conventional or 00:15:30.550 --> 00:15:34.510 alternative, they have a sliver of what health really is in their 00:15:34.550 --> 00:15:38.432 specialty. I've come to call specialists partialists now, because I think it's more 00:15:38.456 --> 00:15:41.952 accurate to what they know, the tiny part of the problem. And when you can 00:15:41.976 --> 00:15:45.792 break that spell and think holistically, gosh, it's so much easier 00:15:45.936 --> 00:15:49.712 to find your path to healing. There's a learning curve to it, but 00:15:49.816 --> 00:15:53.600 sure enough, it works. And that's really the work I've been about for a long 00:15:53.640 --> 00:15:57.552 time now as. A patient myself, put myself in the patient shoes. I expect 00:15:57.656 --> 00:16:00.976 the medical professionals, pharmaceutical 00:16:01.088 --> 00:16:04.912 producers, chemists, whoever they are, to have give me certainty. I 00:16:04.936 --> 00:16:07.962 want to know that I can be cured. That's what I want, don't I? Yeah. 00:16:08.026 --> 00:16:11.114 And that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for the holy ground. I want immortality, 00:16:11.162 --> 00:16:15.082 I want invincibility. I want to know if it hurts, you can stop it. If 00:16:15.106 --> 00:16:18.010 I'm. If I've got a tumour, if I've got this, I've got that going on. 00:16:18.050 --> 00:16:21.018 I want to know that what you're going to do for me is reassure me 00:16:21.074 --> 00:16:25.002 that I will get better if I can. And I think what 00:16:25.026 --> 00:16:28.750 you're saying is the healthcare industry have the monopoly on the phraseology 00:16:29.570 --> 00:16:33.482 to give me that assurance. And there's. We've got risk management right here, we 00:16:33.506 --> 00:16:35.962 got who wants to be risk, who wants to take the risk of you not 00:16:35.986 --> 00:16:39.930 getting better? Am I insured? Am I covered? Are you going to sue me? 00:16:39.970 --> 00:16:43.050 There's all these kind of things going on, isn't there? Yeah, the whole model is 00:16:43.090 --> 00:16:46.314 fear based, once you think about it. You don't know enough. So you have to 00:16:46.322 --> 00:16:50.090 trust us. There are invisible things that might infect you 00:16:50.130 --> 00:16:53.898 and you need to be worried about that. And if you don't do the 00:16:53.954 --> 00:16:57.498 quote unquote conventional thing now, you're even at more risk. And 00:16:57.554 --> 00:17:01.416 what lacks in this entire conversation is informed consent. They don't 00:17:01.448 --> 00:17:04.712 tell you the risks of their treatments. When was the last time somebody laid out 00:17:04.736 --> 00:17:08.200 for you, so here are the side effects of this medication, here are the 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:11.576 processes that your body runs that it will interrupt. Here's where it's going to throw 00:17:11.608 --> 00:17:15.192 a monkey wrench in, like for statins, as an easy example, the monkey wrench of 00:17:15.216 --> 00:17:19.064 this HMG CoA reductase inhibitor. Which means basically that's a 00:17:19.072 --> 00:17:22.792 fancy way of saying there's a particular enzyme that this interrupts when your 00:17:22.816 --> 00:17:26.680 body's synthesising cholesterol. And as a side 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.992 effect of that, your body also can't synthesise CoQ10 anymore. So that can lead to 00:17:30.016 --> 00:17:33.550 heart failure and several different diseases of the heart. 00:17:34.170 --> 00:17:37.442 Nevermind. We're trying to prevent heart disease with this 00:17:37.546 --> 00:17:41.522 medication, but we're actually creating a different kind of problem that can lead 00:17:41.546 --> 00:17:45.474 to heart disease and a weakened immune system and gingivitis. And other things. 00:17:45.642 --> 00:17:48.482 And so what doctor ever lays that out for you when you go to get 00:17:48.506 --> 00:17:52.402 something to lower your cholesterol? Or how about the question why 00:17:52.426 --> 00:17:55.842 is the body making so much cholesterol in the first place? Because it needs it 00:17:55.866 --> 00:17:59.816 as a raw material to rebuild a healthy cell. So now I'm shooting 00:17:59.848 --> 00:18:03.752 the messenger and I'm telling the body to stop doing this because there's some 00:18:03.776 --> 00:18:07.704 artificial test that says your cholesterol needs to be in this particular range 00:18:07.752 --> 00:18:09.912 or you're at risk of clogged arteries and you're going to keel over at any 00:18:09.936 --> 00:18:13.736 second. We're back to fear now. And absence 00:18:13.768 --> 00:18:17.704 of informed consent is an oversimplified narrative that doesn't respect 00:18:17.872 --> 00:18:21.816 the biological processes our body has to run in order to build 00:18:21.888 --> 00:18:25.762 and sustain health. And because they have the ability 00:18:25.826 --> 00:18:29.666 to quote unquote, prevent that. Nevermind. It's kind of the opposite 00:18:29.698 --> 00:18:33.362 that the. Another easy example is the proton pump inhibitors for acid 00:18:33.426 --> 00:18:37.362 reflux. They turn off your body's stomach acid. Well think about that 00:18:37.386 --> 00:18:40.818 for a second. What do you need stomach acid for? To digest your food. Now 00:18:40.874 --> 00:18:44.194 how do you break down your food without acid? How do you get rock minerals 00:18:44.242 --> 00:18:47.602 out of your food without acid? You don't. And so if you don't get it 00:18:47.626 --> 00:18:51.330 out of there, where does your body have to find it? In your bones. 00:18:51.490 --> 00:18:54.914 One of the side effects of proton pump inhibitors is hip 00:18:54.962 --> 00:18:58.866 fractures. Why is it a hip? Because it's the most load bearing joint 00:18:58.898 --> 00:19:01.634 of your body. It's the one that your body put. Your body pulls minerals from 00:19:01.642 --> 00:19:05.442 it and eventually that bone cracks because it was deficient in 00:19:05.466 --> 00:19:09.106 minerals because it couldn't get it out of your food. But the system 00:19:09.178 --> 00:19:13.042 doesn't tell you that when it is just promoting this one 00:19:13.066 --> 00:19:16.590 idea. And it's on us to realise what 00:19:17.100 --> 00:19:20.980 how the system functions and and find the people who can 00:19:21.020 --> 00:19:25.012 teach us what our options are in a way that lays it out 00:19:25.036 --> 00:19:28.804 where you go, okay, I now I feel informed. And 00:19:28.892 --> 00:19:31.204 what to your point? I want to know that I'm going to be cured. I 00:19:31.212 --> 00:19:32.932 want to know that you can make the pain go away. I want to know 00:19:32.956 --> 00:19:36.884 you can cut the tumour out. Well yes, with the right painkiller you 00:19:36.892 --> 00:19:40.788 can flip a switch that tells your body, stop communicating that message to me. 00:19:40.844 --> 00:19:43.746 Make it go away so I can't feel it. It doesn't mean you did anything 00:19:43.778 --> 00:19:47.634 to get at the source of it. And now you've interrupted another physiological 00:19:47.682 --> 00:19:51.682 process and shifted your body into figuring out some other way to communicate with 00:19:51.706 --> 00:19:55.602 you. That there's still a problem here. That's called side effects. And then they 00:19:55.626 --> 00:19:58.162 just give you a medication for the side effect and another medication for the side 00:19:58.186 --> 00:20:01.682 effect. And, Well, I had one client on 13 medications. I guarantee you there's no 00:20:01.706 --> 00:20:05.602 doctor who has any clue what 13 medications are doing synergistically in one 00:20:05.626 --> 00:20:09.554 body. They don't know and they can't tell you because now it's. 00:20:09.602 --> 00:20:13.150 It's. You're in the polypharmaceutical diagnosis. There's no study 00:20:13.610 --> 00:20:17.250 anywhere of more than two drugs in one body at the same time. 00:20:17.290 --> 00:20:21.234 None. Because it's too complex to study the side effects of that. There's some that 00:20:21.242 --> 00:20:24.210 you can tell these two drugs don't interact well together. And so there's some one 00:20:24.250 --> 00:20:27.870 to one, but three or more clueless. This guy's on 13 00:20:28.330 --> 00:20:32.162 and that's. That's just a shame that his doctors never gave him the 00:20:32.186 --> 00:20:34.882 informed consent to see where this goes. If we give you another one and another 00:20:34.906 --> 00:20:38.590 one and another one and another one, that's where people end up. And without 00:20:38.710 --> 00:20:42.654 that information, how are you supposed to make an educated 00:20:42.702 --> 00:20:46.702 decision? You're not. You're supposed to blindly trust. Yeah. And you've raised an 00:20:46.726 --> 00:20:50.046 interesting question that's going through my head right now, is it's easy to get onto 00:20:50.078 --> 00:20:53.358 these medications, these drugs. It's not so easy to come off of them. So listen 00:20:53.374 --> 00:20:56.770 to your sweet there. I take omeprazole, which is a proton pump inhibitor. 00:20:57.110 --> 00:21:00.926 Quite strong acid reflex, which is causing me esophageal 00:21:00.958 --> 00:21:04.834 spasms and things. Oh, wow. I'm on statins, which apparently are good for my 00:21:04.842 --> 00:21:08.546 heart, but also I know. This by the way. Yeah. To avoid 00:21:08.658 --> 00:21:12.658 also chronic ckd, chronic kidney disease. I'm also 00:21:12.714 --> 00:21:16.706 on. Where else am I on? I'm on two sorts of blood pressure 00:21:16.738 --> 00:21:20.722 medication. They operate differently. One is called Ramipuram. The other one called. 00:21:20.746 --> 00:21:24.594 Is some really long way beginning with Alma. I can't pronounce one of them 00:21:24.602 --> 00:21:28.402 is good enough. And at what point can I go back to my gp, my 00:21:28.426 --> 00:21:31.474 doctor and say, hang on a minute, I've been on these now for years and 00:21:31.482 --> 00:21:34.498 years and years. Do I still need to stay on them? And the basic response 00:21:34.514 --> 00:21:38.274 is, well, if they're working, they're working. Just keep doing them. And 00:21:38.362 --> 00:21:41.122 I want to know, can I get off this? Do I have to take all 00:21:41.146 --> 00:21:44.770 these medications? I have to declare these on my health 00:21:44.810 --> 00:21:48.706 insurance and I have to declare them on my travel insurance. And they're loading 00:21:48.738 --> 00:21:52.082 me because I'm on this medication. Do I still have potential 00:21:52.146 --> 00:21:55.766 CKD kidneys of these? I don't think I do, but I'm on this stuff now 00:21:55.898 --> 00:21:59.534 forever. So yeah, it's really interesting that we get on them. How do we get 00:21:59.542 --> 00:22:03.294 off them? Yeah, that's. But that model isn't even interested in asking 00:22:03.342 --> 00:22:07.326 that question. Doctors aren't trained in deprescribing, they're 00:22:07.358 --> 00:22:11.278 just trained in prescribing. And oh, that's add another one. Oh, that. The side effects 00:22:11.294 --> 00:22:15.010 of that are not so great. Let's try a different version of the same toxin. 00:22:15.830 --> 00:22:18.254 And if I was in your shoes, what I would do is just go back 00:22:18.262 --> 00:22:20.606 and say, what would it take for me to wean off of this? Or, or 00:22:20.678 --> 00:22:24.256 here's the fun experiment. Can you tell me why I have, let's say acid 00:22:24.288 --> 00:22:27.984 reflux or high cholesterol in the first place? Ask that question and what you're going 00:22:27.992 --> 00:22:31.728 to find, you probably get one of five answers. It's genetics, it's stress, it's ageing, 00:22:31.824 --> 00:22:35.376 it's I don't know. Or it's all in your head. You're probably just making up 00:22:35.448 --> 00:22:38.256 and you should probably talk to somebody because you're. You need to see a shrink. 00:22:38.288 --> 00:22:41.072 Now. That's the, the breadth of the best answers 00:22:41.216 --> 00:22:45.088 95+% of medical doctors are going to give you because that's 00:22:45.104 --> 00:22:48.982 how they're trained to think. And they're, they're wooed and groomed in this 00:22:49.006 --> 00:22:52.998 idea that they are the authority and there is no higher, better 00:22:53.054 --> 00:22:56.918 option. And they use the term idiopathic, which has 00:22:56.974 --> 00:23:00.854 funny root. Idiot. They have this idea that we don't know 00:23:00.942 --> 00:23:04.870 what the cause of this situation is. That's what the definition of idiopathic is. 00:23:04.910 --> 00:23:08.662 Unknown origin. So you have a disease of unknown origin, which is to me is 00:23:08.686 --> 00:23:12.646 a cop out. It's the lazy answer to why did this 00:23:12.718 --> 00:23:16.022 start in the first place? And if we're not 00:23:16.126 --> 00:23:19.990 entertaining that question, what are we doing? How are we helping someone 00:23:20.030 --> 00:23:24.022 get well? We're not. We're assuming that it's because a medical doctor often will tell 00:23:24.046 --> 00:23:27.766 you it's incurable. And what they're really saying is 00:23:27.918 --> 00:23:31.830 I don't know how it could be curable. That doesn't mean it isn't. 00:23:31.990 --> 00:23:35.910 I have so many disease conditions I've helped people reverse. Not because 00:23:35.950 --> 00:23:39.444 I was treating or prescribing anything. I was just teaching them how to live a 00:23:39.452 --> 00:23:43.124 healthy lifestyle. And sure enough, the body figured it out. I just helped remove the 00:23:43.132 --> 00:23:46.756 burden and empower better function. And in many ways that's what 00:23:46.828 --> 00:23:50.644 healthcare should be, but it's not how the system thinks. 00:23:50.772 --> 00:23:54.580 You're just a chemistry equation or a lab test, not a holistic person 00:23:54.700 --> 00:23:58.372 with a lot of moving parts in your life and identifiable 00:23:58.436 --> 00:24:02.132 sources of problem. You're just 10 minutes of half 00:24:02.156 --> 00:24:04.852 listening in a pill. Come back and see me in six months or 12 months 00:24:04.876 --> 00:24:07.684 and we'll do another test. Well, that, that's a test is what was happening in 00:24:07.692 --> 00:24:11.428 that moment. What about the rest of my life? What about, what about doctor, what's 00:24:11.444 --> 00:24:15.348 going on inside my cells or inside my interstitial fluid? There's 00:24:15.364 --> 00:24:18.068 no test for that. There's no test for what's going on in your head. There's 00:24:18.084 --> 00:24:22.084 a questionnaire, a symptom, like amorphous, like you kind of have some of 00:24:22.092 --> 00:24:25.444 these. So let's just throw some darts in the dark and use this medication for 00:24:25.452 --> 00:24:27.748 your head. There's no lab test for that. How do you even know what you're 00:24:27.764 --> 00:24:31.076 dealing with? And I can tell you if you start asking those questions, the doctors 00:24:31.108 --> 00:24:35.034 won't appreciate it or some of you'll find the rare unicorn who's like humbled. 00:24:35.082 --> 00:24:39.002 And I had one client on proton pump inhibitors and I laid out for 00:24:39.026 --> 00:24:43.018 her the nutrients, Rob, the side effects and the eventual hip fracture 00:24:43.034 --> 00:24:46.762 that she was looking at. She went back to her doctor with that evidence and 00:24:46.866 --> 00:24:49.162 showed it to him and he said, you know what, you're right, we're going to 00:24:49.186 --> 00:24:53.070 have to get you off of this. But it took the patient 00:24:53.410 --> 00:24:57.258 pointing that out to the medical professional and kind of 00:24:57.314 --> 00:25:01.222 cornering them in the end state of where that goes before 00:25:01.406 --> 00:25:05.382 the doctor was in that case humble enough to say, yeah, there's, we have 00:25:05.406 --> 00:25:08.294 to maybe get at the root of this. And this as a long term solution 00:25:08.342 --> 00:25:12.294 is going to lead to other problems. Where was that informed consent at the 00:25:12.302 --> 00:25:15.654 beginning of prescribing that? There wasn't any. So 00:25:15.742 --> 00:25:19.478 anyway, one of the BP meds I'm on actually has a 00:25:19.534 --> 00:25:23.510 proven side effect of causing chronic kidney disease or 00:25:23.550 --> 00:25:26.594 early stage. It has an effect on the kidneys, so you can't overtake. I think 00:25:26.602 --> 00:25:30.002 it's Ramipril is the one I'm on, whatever that generic name is. So I know 00:25:30.026 --> 00:25:33.442 that I'm on. I'm taking the statins because the Ramipril has 00:25:33.466 --> 00:25:36.994 effectively impacted my kidneys. I've got to be careful. That and I, I've lost a 00:25:37.002 --> 00:25:39.170 lot of weight recently. I've lost over six to in the last couple of years. 00:25:39.210 --> 00:25:42.994 Stopped drinking a couple of years ago. So I'm actually wanting to Get a 00:25:43.002 --> 00:25:46.642 pathway off of some of this stuff. Hopefully my, my blood pressure will normalise now 00:25:46.666 --> 00:25:50.498 I'm living more health, less, Less body mass. There's 00:25:50.594 --> 00:25:54.252 no alcohol, so I'm hoping that I can wean myself off. But how do I 00:25:54.276 --> 00:25:58.092 wean myself off a BP meds without going cold turkey and saying, because 00:25:58.196 --> 00:26:00.924